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Postby feodor fathon FF » Fri May 12, 2006 1:33 pm

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... l#001.0072
Chapter 84: PERTAINING TO THE WORDS OF THE APOSTLE OF ALLAH (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM):" I WOULD BE THE FIRST AMONG PEOPLE TO INTERCEDE IN THE PARADISE AND AMONG THE APOSTLES I WOULD HAVE THE LARGEST FOLLOWING"

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    Book 001, Number 0381:
    Anas b. Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I would be the first among people to intercede in the Paradise and amongst the apostles I would have the largest following (on the Day of Resurrection).

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    Book 001, Number 0382:
    Anas b. Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Amongst the apostles I would have the largest following on the Day of Resurrec tion, and I would be the first to knock at the door of Paradise.

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    Book 001, Number 0383:
    Anas b. Malik said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I would be the first intercessor in the Paradise and no apostle amongst the apostles has been testified (by such a large number of people) as I have been testified. And verily there woald be an apostle among the apostles who would be testified to by only one man from his people.

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    Book 001, Number 0384:
    Anas b. Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I will come to the gate of Paradise on the Day of Resurrection. and would seek its opening. and the keeper would say: Who art thou? I would say: Muhammad. He would then say: It is for thee that I have been ordered, and not to open it for anyone before thee.

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    Book 001, Number 0385:
    Abu Huraira reported: Verity the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: There is for every apostle a (special) prayer with which he would pray. I wish I could reserve, my prayer for intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection.

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    Book 001, Number 0386:
    Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: There is for every apostle a prayer, and I intend (if Allah so willed) that I would reserve my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection.

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    Book 001, Number 0388:
    Amr b. Abu Sufyan reported: Abu Huraira said to Ka'b al-Ahbar that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) had said: For every apostle there Is a (special) prayer by which he would pray (to his Lord). I, however, intend (if Allah so willed) that I would reserve my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection. Ka'b said to Abu Huraira: Did you hear this from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)? Abu Huraira said: Yes.

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    Book 001, Number 0389:

    Abu Huraira said: The Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: There is for every apostle a prayer which is granted, but every prophet showed haste in his prayer. I have, however, reserved my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection, and it would be granted, if Allah so willed, in case of everyone amongst my Ummah provided he dies without associating anything with Allah.

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    Book 001, Number 0390:
    Abu Huraira said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Every Messenger is endowed with a prayer which is granted and by which he would (pray to his Lord) and it would he granted for him. I have, however, reserved my prayer for the intercession of my Ummab on the Day of Resurrection.

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    Book 001, Number 0391:
    Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: There was for every apostle a prayer with which he prayed for his Ummah and it was granted to him; but I wish, if Allah so wills, to defer my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection.

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    Book 001, Number 0392:
    Anas b. Malik reported: Verily the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: There is for every apostle a prayer with which he prays (to Allah) for his Ummah. I have reserved my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection.

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    Book 001, Number 0396:
    Abu Zubair heard Jabir b. Abdullah reporting it from the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him): For every apostle was a prayer with which he prayed (to his Lord) for his Ummah, but I have reserved my prayer for the intercession of my Ummah on the Day of Resurrection.
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Postby curious » Fri May 12, 2006 2:12 pm

Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

....... Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

Artinya: Muhammad tidak di surga. Sekarang ini dia di HELL (Neraka) dan akan menjadi orang pertama yang menyebrangi jembatan keluar dari neraka (menurut dia).

Herannya menurut Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 345 tentang Muhamad naik ke surga, di sana dia melihat nabi-nabi lainnya yang ada di Bible seperti Adam, Musa, Yesus dan Abraham.

Jadi mengapa nabi-nabi lain sudah ada di surga, dan si muhammad yang katanya Nabi No. 1 Kesayangan Auloh mesti menunggu di NERAKA JAHANAM?
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Postby feodor fathon FF » Fri May 12, 2006 2:40 pm

jadi begini cerita perjalanan di alam akhirat itu bos ...:
pertama manusia dikumpulkan di padang masyar...lalu di sidang dan diputuskan dng adil ... lalu menyeberang jembatan lurus yang dibawahnya neraka ...lalu mengetuk gerbang surga. faham bos ??.. :lol:

NAH GUGUR SUDAH PRASANGKA GEROMBOLAN INI BAHWA NABI MUHAMMAD TIDAK TAHU NASIBNYA DI AKHIRAT ...waah belajar dari sekarang kalo menilai itu dng komprehensif yah

SEKALI LAGI ARGUMENT KALIAN LEMAH DAN MUDAH DIPATAHKAN :D
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Postby feodor fathon FF » Fri May 12, 2006 2:45 pm

eeeh ada yang lupa mengenai hadits ini :
    Volume 1, Book 8, Number 345:

    Narrated Abu Dhar:

    Allah's Apostle said, "While I was at Mecca the roof of my house was opened and Gabriel descended, opened my chest, and washed it with Zam-zam water. Then he brought a golden tray full of wisdom and faith and having poured its contents into my chest, he closed it. Then he took my hand and ascended with me to the nearest heaven, when I reached the nearest heaven, Gabriel said to the gatekeeper of the heaven, 'Open (the gate).' The gatekeeper asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel answered: 'Gabriel.' He asked, 'Is there anyone with you?' Gabriel replied, 'Yes, Muhammad I is with me.' He asked, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel said, 'Yes.' So the gate was opened and we went over the nearest heaven and there we saw a man sitting with some people on his right and some on his left. When he looked towards his right, he laughed and when he looked toward his left he wept. Then he said, 'Welcome! O pious Prophet and pious son.' I asked Gabriel, 'Who is he?' He replied, 'He is Adam and the people on his right and left are the souls of his offspring. Those on his right are the people of Paradise and those on his left are the people of Hell and when he looks towards his right he laughs and when he looks towards his left he weeps.'

    Then he ascended with me till he reached the second heaven and he (Gabriel) said to its gatekeeper, 'Open (the gate).' The gatekeeper said to him the same as the gatekeeper of the first heaven had said and he opened the gate. Anas said: "Abu Dhar added that the Prophet met Adam, Idris, Moses, Jesus and Abraham, he (Abu Dhar) did not mention on which heaven they were but he mentioned that he (the Prophet ) met Adarn on the nearest heaven and Abraham on the sixth heaven. Anas said, "When Gabriel along with the Prophet passed by Idris, the latter said, 'Welcome! O pious Prophet and pious brother.' The Prophet asked, 'Who is he?' Gabriel replied, 'He is Idris." The Prophet added, "I passed by Moses and he said, 'Welcome! O pious Prophet and pious brother.' I asked Gabriel, 'Who is he?' Gabriel replied, 'He is Moses.' Then I passed by Jesus and he said, 'Welcome! O pious brother and pious Prophet.' I asked, 'Who is he?' Gabriel replied, 'He is Jesus.

    Then I passed by Abraham and he said, 'Welcome! O pious Prophet and pious son.' I asked Gabriel, 'Who is he?' Gabriel replied, 'He is Abraham. The Prophet added, 'Then Gabriel ascended with me to a place where I heard the creaking of the pens." Ibn Hazm and Anas bin Malik said: The Prophet said, "Then Allah enjoined fifty prayers on my followers when I returned with this order of Allah, I passed by Moses who asked me, 'What has Allah enjoined on your followers?' I replied, 'He has enjoined fifty prayers on them.' Moses said, 'Go back to your Lord (and appeal for reduction) for your followers will not be able to bear it.' (So I went back to Allah and requested for reduction) and He reduced it to half. When I passed by Moses again and informed him about it, he said, 'Go back to your Lord as your followers will not be able to bear it.' So I returned to Allah and requested for further reduction and half of it was reduced. I again passed by Moses and he said to me: 'Return to your Lord, for your followers will not be able to bear it. So I returned to Allah and He said, 'These are five prayers and they are all (equal to) fifty (in reward) for My Word does not change.' I returned to Moses and he told me to go back once again. I replied, 'Now I feel shy of asking my Lord again.' Then Gabriel took me till we '' reached Sidrat-il-Muntaha (Lote tree of; the utmost boundry) which was shrouded in colors, indescribable. Then I was admitted into Paradise where I found small (tents or) walls (made) of pearls and its earth was of musk."

ha ha ha rupanya gak faham hadits ini yah ??...ck ..ck
ini mah waktu isra mi'raj atuh .... surga dan neraka mah belum digelar sebelum kiamat mah jang ....
HEAVEN disana artinya LANGIT bukan surga
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Postby curious » Fri May 12, 2006 3:00 pm

feodor fathon FF wrote:jadi begini cerita perjalanan di alam akhirat itu bos ...:
pertama manusia dikumpulkan di padang masyar...lalu di sidang dan diputuskan dng adil ... lalu menyeberang jembatan lurus yang dibawahnya neraka ...lalu mengetuk gerbang surga. faham bos ??.. :lol:


salah neng....
ceritanya bukan begitu. silakan baca hadithnya yang lengkap donk.
ceritanya.. semua muslim masuk neraka dulu. dibakar sampai gosong. baru tiba bagian tentang jembatan.

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man will be left between Hell and Paradise and he will be the last man from the people of Hell to enter paradise. He will be facing Hell, and will say, 'O Allah! Turn my face from the fire as its wind has dried me and its steam has burnt me.' Allah will ask him, "Will you ask for anything more in case this favor is granted to you?' He will say, "No by Your (Honor) Power!" And he will give to his Lord (Allah) what he will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then turn his face from the Fire. When he will face Paradise and will see its charm, he will remain quiet as long as Allah will. He then will say, 'O my Lord! Let me go to the gate of Paradise.' Allah will ask him, 'Didn't you give pledges and make covenants (to the effect) that you would not ask for anything more than what you requested at first?' He will say, 'O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched, amongst Your creatures.' Allah will say, 'If this request is granted, will you then ask for anything else?' He will say, 'No! By Your Power! I shall not ask for anything else.' Then he will give to his Lord what He will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then let him go to the gate of Paradise. On reaching then and seeing its life, charm, and pleasure, he will remain quiet as long as Allah wills and then will say, 'O my Lord ! Let me enter Paradise.' Allah will say, May Allah be merciful unto you, O son of Adam! How treacherous you are! Haven't you made covenants and given pledges that you will not ask for anything more that what you have been given?' He will say, 'O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst Your creatures.' So Allah will laugh and allow him to enter Paradise and will ask him to request as much as he likes. He will do so till all his desires have been fulfilled . Then Allah will say, 'Request more of such and such things.' Allah will remind him and when all his desires and wishes; have been fulfilled, Allah will say "All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides." Abu Said Al-Khudri, said to Abu Huraira, 'Allah's Apostle said, "Allah said, 'That is for you and ten times more like it.' "Abu Huraira said, "I do not remember from Allah's Apostle except (his saying), 'All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides." Abu Sahd said, "I heard him saying, 'That is for you and ten times more the like of it."


KESIMPULAN: MUHAMMAD SEKARANG DIBAKAR DI NERAKA
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Postby Arjuna_2 » Fri May 12, 2006 3:15 pm

curious wrote:Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

....... Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

Artinya: Muhammad tidak di surga. Sekarang ini dia di HELL (Neraka) dan akan menjadi orang pertama yang menyebrangi jembatan keluar dari neraka (menurut dia).

Herannya menurut Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 345 tentang Muhamad naik ke surga, di sana dia melihat nabi-nabi lainnya yang ada di Bible seperti Adam, Musa, Yesus dan Abraham.

Jadi mengapa nabi-nabi lain sudah ada di surga, dan si muhammad yang katanya Nabi No. 1 Kesayangan Auloh mesti menunggu di NERAKA JAHANAM?


Ya...namanya juga muslim...sudah jelas bakal masuk neraka
masih ngotot mencari pembenaran.

Bertobatlah sebelom terlambat ....sudah lah gak usah malu. kita ma'apin kok. 8)
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Postby moe » Fri May 12, 2006 3:22 pm

feodor fathon FF wrote:ha ha ha rupanya gak faham hadits ini yah ??...ck ..ck
ini mah waktu isra mi'raj atuh .... surga dan neraka mah belum digelar sebelum kiamat mah jang ....
HEAVEN disana artinya LANGIT bukan surga


OK
Heaven = langit
Anda (atau someone else) pernah bilang, mrk yg mati tinggal di alam kubur (alam barzah), knapa mereka ada dilangit? emang Alam kubur ada dilangit?
Mohammad naik ke langit (heaven) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, dan terakhir 7 tempat allah berada. emang allah ada di langit atau di surga?
Perhatikan kalimat :
Then I was admitted into Paradise where I found small (tents or) walls (made) of pearls and its earth was of musk.
Muhammad diijinkan masuk ke paradise (surga) dimana dia menemukan tembok2 terbuat dari mutiara dan tanahnya terbuat dari gading
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Postby curious » Fri May 12, 2006 3:30 pm

obviously auloh mereka tinggal di LANGIT. Di Surga yang ada cuma rumah bordir dengan 72 bidadari buat setiap muslim yang mati dalam jihad. ...somekind of paradise.....!
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Postby feodor fathon FF » Fri May 12, 2006 3:39 pm

curious wrote:KESIMPULAN: MUHAMMAD SEKARANG DIBAKAR DI NERAKA

waduuuuh nih bocah udeh mencoba mengkoreksi salah pula ..duh mak !!
lihat yg saya besarkan ...mana letak salahnya dng argue saya yg ente kutip ...
lagian emang lo ngerti konsep SURGA NERAKA dalam ISlam ???...ngerti gak lo !!... gue jamin pasti lo kagak nyaho .... lagi2 pake kacamata keyakinan loh...waaah kurang cerdas nih
sudahlah ..mana ada jaminan ente bakal masuk surga dalam agama ente
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Postby curious » Fri May 12, 2006 3:42 pm

thank you for enlarging the font and changing the colour, karena makin jelaslah bahwa MUHAMMAD KELUAR DARI NERAKA untuk diadili pada judgement day. jadi jelas lah dia sekarang masih bermukim di sana dibakar sampai gosong.

gitu aja susah ngertinya ???
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Postby feodor fathon FF » Fri May 12, 2006 3:47 pm

saya jadi lemes nih moe .... duh masih banyak yang kalian belum mengerti ttg konsep semua itu ..seperti alam kubur, surga , neraka dsb ...tapi saya coba untuk kuat dan sabar menjelaskan semoga menjadi kebaikan bagi saya dan kalian semua

quote wrote:OK
Heaven = langit
Anda (atau someone else) pernah bilang, mrk yg mati tinggal di alam kubur (alam barzah), knapa mereka ada dilangit? emang Alam kubur ada dilangit?

jadi menurut kalian Alam kubur ada dimana ??..dibumi ??....kalo yg matinya di makan ikan hiu gimana ?? ..alam kuburnya di perut ikan hiu yah ?...he he ..Alam kubur itu dimensi say ..sama dng langit bisa di artikan dimensi tdk naik tangga kayak ono

Mohammad naik ke langit (heaven) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, dan terakhir 7 tempat allah berada. emang allah ada di langit atau di surga?

Allah tdk dalam ordinat say ...makna Singasana Allah di langit ke 7 itu ..bahwa di langit ke 7 semua Kekuasaan Allah dlm mengatur alam raya ini di sana dng malaikat dan tugas nya masing2

Perhatikan kalimat :
Then I was admitted into Paradise where I found small (tents or) walls (made) of pearls and its earth was of musk.
Muhammad diijinkan masuk ke paradise (surga) dimana dia menemukan tembok2 terbuat dari mutiara dan tanahnya terbuat dari gading

dalam Isra Mi'raj semua yg muhammad temui adalah VISUALISASI SAJA ...
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Postby moe » Fri May 12, 2006 4:01 pm

qqqq yah namanya juga debat dan menyerang plus dikit diskusi om
jadi ndak perlu tahu bnyk dulu, ada tahu dikit lsg serang...qqqq
kalo salah kan om yg ksh tahu....tapi salah bener pun masih relatip lho

ok back to topic:
jelas sekali makna kata 'ascend' adalah menuju suatu titik ordinat tanpa menghilangkan batas2 kekuasaan tuhan

justru visualisasi inilah yg menimbulkan perbantahan
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Postby curious » Fri May 12, 2006 4:03 pm

iya deh ff gua terima argument lu kalo heaven = langit. kalo gitu gua ganti pertanyaan gua, kenapa nabi-nabi Injil pada di LANGIT, sedangkan muhammad masih saja ngendon di HELL menunggu judgemen day sama jembatannya?
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Postby moe » Fri May 12, 2006 4:10 pm

qqqq
oya saya tambahi:
di langit pertama adam and his offspring: hellboy-adam-paradiseboy
kog ada offspring lain yg nongol di langit 2,3,4,5 dan 6?
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Postby feodor fathon FF » Fri May 12, 2006 4:17 pm

curious wrote:iya deh ff gua terima argument lu kalo heaven = langit. kalo gitu gua ganti pertanyaan gua, kenapa nabi-nabi Injil pada di LANGIT, sedangkan muhammad masih saja ngendon di HELL menunggu judgemen day sama jembatannya?

nah itulah alam kubur .. kecuali langit ke 2 dimana nabi Yesus berada sebab nabi yesus belum mati masih punya tugas di saat2 hari kiamat yaitu menginsyafkan kalian semua.
    [4:159] Tidak ada seorangpun dari Ahli Kitab, kecuali akan beriman kepadanya sebelum kematiannya . Dan di hari kiamat nanti 'Isa itu akan menjadi saksi terhadap mereka.

nah kalo perkara Jembatan mah nanti ..belum terjadi say ... nanti itu mah udeh kiamat. sekarang Nabi Muhamamd bersama para Nabi yg sudah meninggal dan bersama para mujahid suci di sidratul muntaha. Surga dan neraka mah masih kosong nanti diisinya kalo udeh kiamat dan dihakimi oleh Allah.
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Postby moe » Fri May 12, 2006 4:49 pm

Wah disitu jelas sekali sang narator crita : dia kagak jelas masing2 nabi tadi ada di langit keberapa om
Yang jelas muhammad itu pasti ada dilangit pertama.
Tebak sendiri , dia ada di kiri atau kanan adam...
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Postby feodor fathon FF » Fri May 12, 2006 5:01 pm

narator bilang kalo gak salah di langit ke 6
kalo hadits nabi Isa di langit ke 2 ..dimana yah haditsnya lupa lagi ..dulu saya pernah kutip tapi lupa euy ..nanti dah saya cari di http://www.usc.edu
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Postby curious » Sat May 13, 2006 6:34 am

feodor fathon FF wrote:ah kalo perkara Jembatan mah nanti ..belum terjadi say ... nanti itu mah udeh kiamat. sekarang Nabi Muhamamd bersama para Nabi yg sudah meninggal dan bersama para mujahid suci di sidratul muntaha. Surga dan neraka mah masih kosong nanti diisinya kalo udeh kiamat dan dihakimi oleh Allah.


ok deh.. jembatan itu nanti
tapi mengapa saat jembatan itu ada muhammad KELUAR DARI NERAKA?
dan israj miraj itu kan terjadi SEBELUM kiamat. Kenapa nabi-nabi lainnya SUDAH DI LUAR NERAKA alias di LANGIT? Kenapa nggak sama-sama aja sama nabi no 1 favorit auloh nunggu jembatan di NERAKA?
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Postby bono » Sat May 13, 2006 7:02 am

muhammad tau nasibnya di akhirat? matinya aja kagak tau gimana caranya kok. bang fathon sendiri kan yang mengungkapkan 5 poin kelemahan muhammad yang di iming2i=hanya allah yang tahu. muhammad sedang jualan bakso di neraka.
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Postby EmBeEr » Sun May 14, 2006 1:03 am

curious wrote:ok deh.. jembatan itu nanti
tapi mengapa saat jembatan itu ada muhammad KELUAR DARI NERAKA?
dan israj miraj itu kan terjadi SEBELUM kiamat. Kenapa nabi-nabi lainnya SUDAH DI LUAR NERAKA alias di LANGIT? Kenapa nggak sama-sama aja sama nabi no 1 favorit auloh nunggu jembatan di NERAKA?

itukan hanya ilustrasi saja yang disaksikan Muhammad, bisa dikatakan adalah masa depan kehidupan akhirat , jadi sekarang ini surga dan neraka belum ada penghunianya dan itu sudah dijelaskan oleh sodara FF. ente ini kok nggak paham2...
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